Monday, August 16, 2010
ABD chapter 17 notes
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https://sites.google.com/site/dariachenowith/abd/chapter-17
http://dariaabd.livejournal.com/
http://www.twcslibrary.com/viewstory.php?sid=1383&chapter=17
Chapter 17 Note. Bella the Duracell bunny.
Or: only try this at home when you know what you're doing!
Remember back in the day when I first started posting ABD and I promised you all I would step up the pace? Well, here you are, a hell of an intense scene that comes a lot closer to what I personally do than what I usually write. Don't be scared, but I promise you, this one will make you cringe.
At the bottom are the answers to a few questions I got with the last update.
First, Beth's outfit (just remember, Beth is a little more buxom than the model here, hehe):
So what do we need for this chapter? it even comes with a shopping list!
We need, in the order of appearance:
A willing sub, some rope, and one of the most basic forms of breast bondage - a simple harness:
So much for the first part.
Now the second.
I didn't really find the exact picture I was looking for (because I write chapters and look for the pictures afterwards, not the other way round, and apparently my imagination is a challenge even for the wonderful kink.com etc sites) - something pretty close to this is the result you see above (and further down the post)
Reclined bench, legs spread and tied back out of the way, wrists secured - voilĂ !
Now for the different kinds of equipment mentioned:
You probably know them from a somewhat different setting - and now just imagine how much 'fun' going to the ob/gyn is for me. No, seriously, you don't want to be all horny when you jump up on that chair and spread your legs.
A speculum:
A Foley catheter:
Sounds:
I guess the latex gloves and the plastic syringe (without a needle attached, obviously) are self-explanatory;
A few words about urethral play. If you google it you'll probably get swarmed with pictures and vids where it's done to male subs. I have never understood why female urethral play seems to be more of a taboo. I like it, a lot, and for me it feels insanely good. I'm not alone with it, either, and if you consider the amount of nerve endings in the general region it's no wonder that it's something the body reacts positively to.
The main issue here is keeping things clean. I've had my share of urinary tract infections but never from using sounds. Sterile and/or antibacterial lube is vital, and everything that comes in contact with the peehole needs to be as free of germs as possible.
This is def. not beginner stuff, but you're all here to learn something new, right? ;)
And then, of course, a personal favorite of mine - fisting!
Now if you've read the chapter before you came here you probably got the take-away message already - if not, or if you're still cringing so badly, let me say a few words.
Fisting, or fistfucking, is something that can be immensely pleasurable. Both anally and vaginally for all people with the suitable anatomy. Which are a lot. Usually the problem isn't a physiological one why it doesn't work (right away) but a mental one. It's kind of a big thing - pun intended - if you're considering getting a hand shoved up there somewhere.
Now two things up ahead - there is absolutely no shoving involved, and usually not a fist in so far as what you would punch someone in the face with. At least you don't start out that way, but rather with the fingers of the hand all pressed together - like this:
Also very important, it's all about going slow. Like really slow. The vagina and anus are both muscled tubes, and muscles can be stretched. If you go too fast they will just contract instead, and that's exactly what you want to avoid.
Obviously, no one will try fisting who isn't turned on by the idea of it. I personally find being full and getting stretched great. Naturally I wanted to try fisting; I had the luck of knowing a few people who had done it before and knew what to watch out for - but it's really all about:
wanting it
going slow
and insane amounts of lube!! The saying goes, if you think you're already using too much, use more.
Fisting is certainly one of the more intense things to do. I mean for starters you have to trust someone a lot to do that to you. You also need to be very comfortable with communicating so you can slowly work your way through all kinds of obstacles, mental and physical ones alike; It hurts, even when you do it slowly, but for me at least it's never a bad kind of pain, and it's by far worth the pleasure that comes along once my body has stopped protesting (which after several years happens pretty fast, hehe);
But there are two misconceptions that I already addressed in the chapter, that I want to stress here again:
You don't need to have a roomy vag (either from having given birth, or your downstairs department being rather 'well used' otherwise) - and fisting doesn't leave you gaping or stretched or something. Like with everything else if you do it more often your body will learn, remember, and accommodate faster, but well trained muscles are usually the ones that are the most contractable, too, if you get what I mean.
The take home message from this chapter is simple - fisting is fun!
Now a few words about the chapter and its writing process.
This is actually version 2 of the chapter, there are 3k of the unused first version rotting on my harddrive now. I initially wanted to write it as a medical roleplay scene but that simply didn't work for me. Obviously you can see which part of the idea remained the same, but I like Bella to get a chance to be more active - even when she's completely tied down and forced into physical passiveness - and the re-write is one of the reasons why you had to wait another week for the chapter.
As for why use urethral play? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I wrecked a twi fanfic no-go there.
It is also something I personally like doing, and I figured, why not, some of you might appreciate a glimpse into a world that's a few steps farther away from the typical whips and chains BDSM image the media is broadcasting.
There's also a 'smut plot' reason for it, so to say - the bladder is really close to the vagina when you add a hand to the whole anatomy - and I guess you can think by yourself to what kind of accidents that can lead, particularly if you catch the fistee unawares. Awesome if you're into watersports - not so much if your mind is still riling from the idea that someone just successfully pushed their hand into your snatch.
Why fisting? Because I love fisting, it's fun, and I wanted to write it since I decided to take HBR from a one-shot into a real story. I refrained from it so far because of the reactions I got to some of the in my opinion milder things I wrote about, but quite frankly, you've all been warned, I'm sure that at least half of you aren't surprised I went there. I hope you liked it!
Up next, obviously, a non smut chapter, but after this one we all need a cigarette or ten and might enjoy a little friendly conversation between old friends ahead ;) Let the mindfuckery begin.
Now for the Q&A
I got a whole bunch of questions, and as there was no update last weekend and I don't know if I can write the next chapter this week, you get all the answers now - maybe they make you come up with some of your own? ;)
Story related:
Besides Beth, who is your favorite character in ABD?
I'm really having a hard time answering this. I'd say a very close tie between Edward and Jazz.
Have you enjoyed writing ABD or HBR more?
I can't really say it, the answer kind of depends on the feedback I'll get for this chapter - if people are mature enough so I can venture forth and really write whatever I want, or not. The beauty of HBR was to craft a story told by a character the reader could relate to better, so that I could take them by the hand in lead them into my world. And being a woman myself, writing from a female POV is a little easier as I don't have to remind myself constantly to let my main character act like a guy. But I'm terribly in love with writing EPOV, he's so much fun when he's mean :) so right now it's about even, but in a few chapters from now I suspect I will like ABD more.
Will there be a third installment to your stories, or do think ABD will be the last?
That entirely depends on how long ABD will get, and if I feel like there is still something to tell when I reach the point where the story naturally ends. Right now I think there will be no third part, but if I can still come up with something, I know how I would write it. Time will tell! But I won't force the issue either way.
Which of your characters is most like a person you know?
None of them lol okay, maybe Alice is a little like the lovechild of two of my very close friends. All the others, not so much. I know someone who is as outspoken and direct as Beth, but I don't think she would recognize herself in the character. I mean I would love to know all of them personally, but I generally like to create my characters independently of the people I know. Even in fanfic.
Personal questions:
What was your first scene like emotionally? What did you do in it?
It was intense, but mostly because it was my first scene, and helped me a lot to become more comfortable with my kinky side. I think I was high on the adrenaline for a week lol
Physically it was pretty basic, some spanking, I was restrained with cuffs locking my ankles and wrists together at one point, no intercourse but I was made to come twice and learned the hard way that deep-throating when you're in a hog-tie is a rather passive thing. What really blew me away was how easy it was for me to slip into a submissive mindset and not to lose it until the scene was over. Just to feel owned and helpless, it was great!
What is one of your hard limits and why?
My ears are a hard limit. Might sound weird but I get all kinds of crazy when someone blows in my ears, or limits my hearing. I don't mind being gagged and blindfolded, but I need to hear what's going on. Why? Probably because I was nearly deaf as a child from too many inner ear infections. That translates pretty straight into what it is.
As for something less strange, if you want to call it that, I'm a neat freak when it comes to shit, my own in particular. When I know someone or something will come even remotely close to my ass, I'm going to clean it before the scene. And when that's not possible, I insist on anal sex using condoms. It's not about the germs, it's about the idea. I want to be clean. Stat.
Have you ever had a Dom safeword? What were the circumstances?
No but I've watched a scene or two where it has happened. Usually health related issues that suddenly came up, like most of the time safewords are used.
In your relationship, did the D/s come first or the boyfriend/girlfriend?
Kind of a tie. We found each other online in a kinky dating forum, then decided to meet for a play date, but I was too sick to play so we were "stuck" drinking coffee and talking about other things, too. And found out that most of our interests and views match perfectly or clash ideally, and we kind of winged it from there. But the first few times we had sex were all pre-negotiated scenes while we were still 'dating'. And by now, I can no longer differentiate between the two layers of relationships emotionally, nor do I want to. Those are all labels and none of them suffice to describe accurately how things are for me.
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I love that you took this to such an extreme, not just your average cookie-cutter scene!
ReplyDeletegreat chapter! definitely made me squirm for the good! :)
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed this week's chapter and A/N a lot, they were very informative and helped me understand more about fisting, which always seemed (in photos or video) very painful, or at least uncomfortable, but with the explanation from both the chapter and the note here, I'm willing to view it under a much different light now; but you're right, the mental blocking is sometimes a true pain in the ass (not the good kind), it takes some time to balance the physical response, the feeling and the thoughts about something, even more so when we're prejudiced about it.
ReplyDeleteIn the chapter I liked that Edward took the time to talk Bella through this part of the scene, when he noticed she was having much more trouble accepting this form of play than when Beth played with her medical instruments. The urethral play seemed intriguing by the way... very, very intriguing... lol
Thanks for a great chapter, you really outdid yourself. ^_^
Everyone, thanks so much for the stellar feedback!!
ReplyDelete@vampfan4: awesome that you approve :) seeing as my little trek outside most people's comfort zones went so well I plan to spice things up a little more in the future, too!
@lilbluedaisygirl: hehe, great! good squirming is my favorite :P
@adhita: Great that you liked it, and that my notes could help shed a little positive light on things. I mean, no shit, fisting is one of the things that *can* go wrong and be really painful, but it doesn't have to be, and even when things go down, if you're careful and keep good feedback up it's usually only a matter of stopping sooner than you wanted to, instead of a real disaster. The key is being careful and slow; most people don't have porn flick sex at home, either, and RL fisting is a little like that. At least until you do it a lot and know your partner well enough to step it up a bit, but that's the same with everything, right?
But it's really one of the things you need to be fascinated with to even try, and then it usually works well because the mental blockage is easier to overcome. Unless you have a weird day but then we're right back to the feedback thing, hehe.
Fisting, particularly the first few times, takes a lot of easing in all aspects. Talking always helped me (still does) so I incorporated it here. it's also a way to distract the mind and focus on the little steps, and really furthers the trust you need.
Great you enjoyed it so much! it was a hell of a fun chapter for me to write, once it worked!
Thanks for answering my review at the coffee shop. Reading your stories and a few others has really opened my mind to a lot of things. Maybe TMI, though I am a pretty dominant personality, as in running our household, taking on projects at work, standing up for things or people, etc., I find that being held down and spanked is a bit appealing. Though I'm not one for too much pain. Your story has definitely put some ideas in my head.
ReplyDeleteAnd I have some questions. You can answer in general from people you know or experience, or for yourself personally. In all the BDSM fics I've read, the subs come on demand. Is that really possible? Unfortunately, again TMI, it takes me a while to get there, and I certainly can't get there just by someone telling me to. I realize they're already to that point, it just surprises me.
I've also noticed that, for female subs, they can come from penetration only and not necessarily just vaginally, and on demand, lol. I've heard that only a small percentage of women can climax that way, and I realize they are stories, but all the women in them seem able to. And since I don't know anyone in the lifestyle I can't ask them if it's a "vanilla" woman thing, or just women in general.
Sorry if I come across as silly. I'm genuinely interested and know of no one in my life that I can ask. Thanks for your stories, they definitely keep me on my toes.
It takes alot more to TMI me :) and your questions aren't silly, they are really good ones!
ReplyDeleteBut before I answer them, let me say a few words about what you said about yourself. Behavior in life is absolutely no indication whether a person is a sexual submissive or dominant. When people learn about that side of me and my bf, they are usually stunned to disbelieving. I'm loud, extroverted, I usually organize things, I have an opinion about anything and everything, I DO stuff. I plan all of our vacations, I do any remodeling projects at home etc; while he is more the quiet guy who tries to find compromise, and who lets me do whatever I want to. Or so they think lol And I know more hyperactive, very organized subs than Doms. I think it's a female thing, managing stuff and doing that well. Very few subs I know are 'gray mice' in life.
BDSM doesn't have to involve pain at all. It's only the "S" in one of the words incorporated in the abbreviation, you can do very kinky stuff without it :)
Now to your questions:
The coming on demand usually works like this: as a sub, you're not allowed to come. You have to ask and beg for it. Now eventually you are on the verge of coming, and begging your soul out, and when your Dom THEN commands you to come, you come. and very often that works ;) I don't know anyone who can just some on demand without being ready to otherwise first. I don't think I've written that, either, if I did, I need to change that ASAP because it's bullshit lol at least from my experience.
I can come, and frequently do, from penetration alone. It's even easier with anal than vaginal sex. Kinky sex, when not on a high pain level with obvious physical feedback is 80% in my head so I might require a little less direct stimulation. I don't know. But I have days myself when I can't climax at all, too, so either way, fanfic sex is usually perfect and what I want every day but never get!!
Hope that helps!
Following your reply(thank you) to my comment re the last chapter & the A/Ns I went back & read the whole story from the beginning. Taking on board your comments this time & reading from a different mind set rather than judging I enjoyed the story, I'm still struggling with the punishment aspect but getting there fast!! I was a little worried when you said ch.17 was going to be intense & I did find myself doing a few involuntary kegels whilst reading but I thought it was a great chapter, I particularly liked the fact that E kept checking with B that she was ok to go on. FYI totally love Beth's outfit.
ReplyDeleteIt's weird I always thought I was a pretty liberal, live & let live sort of person but when someone challenges your 'norm' I realise that maybe that's not so largely due to ignorance on my part. So not only are you providing me with entertainment, you are educating and reminding me not to be so quick to jump to conclusions.
Thanks so much!
ReplyDeleteGreat that you were able to view things a little different now - I mean that's what's the difference between a narrow minded person and one who let's others live as they want to - so often it's simply misunderstanding that drags us into so many conflicts. Kudos to you for being open enough to allow yourself to be open :)
I know BDSM is in many ways a loaded and controversial topic. I've been raised in a liberal home myself, and my mom is what I'd lovingly call a raging feminist. I share her views most of the time - there is no reason why a woman cannot do anything a man can - but also vice versa (well, except for that pesky child bearing thing, but you know what I mean). But for me that also means that as a woman, I should be allowed to do with my body as I please. If I want to kneel at my man's feet and submit all control to him, knowing he respects me and will not abuse that control, why is that a bad thing? Emotionally I retain all the independence I want - and really, a single word from me and all those rules and limits are gone, I think that's actually a lot more emancipated than what happens in most households around the world. He does all that because he loves and respects me, he knows I WANT him to do all that - including punishment when I (sometimes deliberately) broke the rules we both agreed to uphold. It's a game, if you think of it that way. And like any game, you chose to play it, and you can end it any time.
I don't ramble on here because I thought you didn't understand, it's just a long conflict with "feminists" that I personally have. Then again I never saw what's wrong about porn, either, heck, if I were living in the US I might even work in the industry lol What I see as the main problem why so many people don't understand BDSM is because they never get a chance to see the different layers. You just need the motional and mental aspects so the whole thing works, that's what sets it apart from plain abuse. I hope that with my story and the notes here I can shed a little light on these things that the media usually don't show. Heck, if anybody asks I'm happy to write a post on just how I view all that and many socio-political movements like feminism, too :)